Turn off minions, set it to level 20, and go out and fight the enemy, just as if you passed each other by accident. And for those who like MFPallyTaime, his new video (1 week ago) he picks Seething Hatred as well. Also, Hotslogs show Seething Hatred still in more then 25% of all builds (actually varies by league), and with the highest win percentage (by a small margin), so it isn't like no one uses it. TLDR: Seething Hatred isn't good by itself, but its synergies with almost all of your other skills makes it a must have. Don't forget to reset level to 20 every once in a while, since you may be getting extra levels after a few kills. Time how long it takes you to take down the enemy with Manticore vs Seething Hatred. So much stuff is based on having 10 stacks, that building it faster and keeping it longer seems a no brainer. 133%, 166%?) bonus damage and healing (based on damage) and getting it many seconds earlier in the fight. If you are going toe to toe with another assassin, and you have to kill them before they kill you, then by the time Manticore has given you a 10% max HP extra damage damage on them (six shots), Seething Hatred has already kicked in 100% bonus per shot damage, healing, mana regen, and a 50% bonus firing speed, which translates into something around 150% (math is off here, too tired. Sure Manticore wins out if you are already in a fight and they let you stand around and plink them for 10 seconds, maybe if you move with your minions and they stand there shooting your minions while you shoot their minions before they engage you. Seriously, if you haven't tried out this build before, go into Try mode and try it with Manticore then try it with Seething Hatred. do I go in and help them, or go fight minions to get my stacks back up before joining? Well, with Seething Hatred, they will start dying before they realize I'm even there. Oh, three enemies have jumper two of my team. Seething Hatred, for me, means I don't have to worry about my hatred stacks or try and take pot shots at people or buildings as I pass to keep up my stacks. Are you still alive? Don't disengage for more then 6 seconds or you'll have to start over again. and that isn't even counting Rancor, which then lets you go into berserker mode after about 3 seconds (since attack speed increase ramps up faster as well).Īfter you have 10 stacks, Manticore will begin to catch up and eventually pass the damage, but by that time, the fight has already been going on a while. Being able to run away faster for 8 seconds or start to heal yourself sooner. Being able to build another 10 stacks in 5 seconds rather then 10 seconds is huge. Having a 10 stack up before team fights is a bit hard when it drops in six seconds. I know Manticore looks real good at 16, but how can people pass up Seething Hatred? It's boost to survivability and sustain alone make it a must have. shows that what JonTD said is exactly right, with Seething Hatred actually being the least popular talent choice on the L16 tier I always used to look up builds based on how better players built them. Yeah, Icy Veins is good for WoW, but not HotS. I like QM personally because it's lower stress but vs real humans, and the whole hero-picking metagame doesn't really exist, I can just play whoever I like. Don't forget you can just mute people and report them for harassment. I understand if the lower ranks may be a bit saltier. I've played for so long at this point I'm reasonably ranked and get pretty quiet cooperative people. You get to observe both teammates and opponents and see how they behave. Not saying don't play AI but playing humans (I personally only play QM probably over 2k games at this point) gives you more opportunity to learn. I remember my early games pushing into towers as fast as possible, and these days I almost never take shots at towers unless we have 3ish people or an objective going. Going deep into a lane without serious escape skills can be a death sentence when a couple heroes rotate to stop you. AI is much worse at punishing overextending / bad positioning compared to humans. One thing to keep in mind is that vs AI (especially weak AI) can build bad habits.